Sunday, January 3, 2010

2011 Africa Unit - Black Pharaohs of Egypt

Blog Assignment
After Viewing the Powerpoint and viewing the "Black" Pharaohs and Queens of Egypt . . .
1. View and read this actual Blog page that seemingly has an "Afrocentric" viewpoint to it. Think about the following questions: Why does the blogger have this sense of pride about the race of the earliest Egyptians and Ethiopians? Is the blogger justified to feel this way based on the evidence they have? What is that "evidence"?

2. Next: Go to the National Geographic's website and watch the 2 video clips about "Race" in Egypt.Video Clips entitled: "Color, Symbolism, and Race" and "What Genetics Can Tell Us" You can find this 2nd video on YouTube.

3
. Knowing that the person whose blog page you read first is African American, takes a great deal of pride in their African history, and feels that the Egyptians and Ethiopians were black... (a) What might you blog back to the writer of that blog page in light of what we discussed in class
and the 2 video clips you watched from National Geographic? What information from the clips that you viewed do you think you would point out in your response to the Afrocentric blogger?

4. *Click next on the word "COMMENT" and post your comment.
Please respond on this blog site by including your:
Name and class Period number at the start of your blog response.

55 comments:

Anonymous said...

Andrew Brenner period 4

The writer of the blog is not correct in saying all Egyptians are black skinned. Experts have found that the statues representing Egyptian Pharaohs may be black because it represents the fertility of the soil Egyptians farmed on. Egyptians used colors to symbolize many things in their culture, and this is why many people may confuse the true color of Egyptians. The fact is, Egyptians are not just one color, but shades of many.

Anonymous said...

Gabriel Blatstein Period 4
The blogger has so much pride for the early egyptians who were black ethiopians because they were one of the first succesful civilizations in Africa. People dont give african americans enough recognition for history such as the egyptians. Many people think that the egyptians had to be white only because they thought africa's people were savages. The blogger has the right to feel that way because many people think the egyptians were white and not black. They have evidence from the movie that portrayed the ethipians as white not black. I would blog back to the blogger that he has all the right to be mad and that they shouldnt have made the movie the way they did.The one thing i would mention from the video clip would be that even though he has a point there still is not alot of evidence saying they were black. We still are not 100% sure because the stone they used was black but that just means the fertility of the land.

Anonymous said...

Grace Kim per.4
I believe that the blogger has such pride not just because of the evidents but also because he really does care about them. also, the evidence was that the first people were from Africa.
i would blog back to the blogger saying that i really respect him for having such pride of Egyptions. some people have no pride of their religion or their background and this blogger shows alot of that.

Anonymous said...

Jasmine Teich pd 2:


1. Why does the blogger have this sense of pride about the race of the earliest Egyptians and Ethiopians? Is the blogger justified to feel this way based on the evidence they have? What is that "evidence"?

This blogger has a sense of pride about the race of the earliest Egyptians and Ethiopians because he has an Afrocentric view point which means that he takes pride in his African decent. He is justified to feel that way, but not by the evidence he gave. He used the cartoon movie, "The Prince of Egypt," as proof that Egyptians were black. Though it gives a slight history of what happened there is still no way to tell what the people in the movie actually looked like. He is also not taking into account the cultural diffusion that may or may have not taken place.




3. What might you blog back to the writer of that blog page in light of what we discussed in class
and the 2 video clips you watched from National Geographic? What information from the clips that you viewed do you think you would point out in your response to the Afrocentric blogger?

That yes Egypt is part of Africa so of course there would be blacks there. However, not all Egyptians were black. There was influence from Arabia and Persia. There were inner race marriages, and the fact that Egypt and Nubia (Kush) were so close makes it seem like they were the same people. On a further note many of the statues found by archeologists are black, but that color represents fertility of the land. Many pharaohs were spokesmen for the fertility of the land. There is no way to know for sure that the statues are how the ancient Egyptians looked. Disproving the theory that they were all black.

Anonymous said...

Matt West Period 4
1. I would repond to the blog by agreeing that there are different types of black people, the skin doesnt make them the same. The blog also says how Egypt is a part of Africa and how the Egyptian kings and pharoahs were African and should be looked at that way.
2a. The first video was saying that even though some of the statues are black, it is'nt because the king was black, instead the color black stood for fertility. The statues may not look like the actually king himself because different colors had meanings to the Egyptians.
2b. The second video was about how Africa is a big continent and is a lot more diverse then we see it. Scientists have tried to use genetics to link the Egyptians to Africans but have not had any success. It seems like they are related however because of facial features and other physical features. Because of the Nile River Valley many people may have migrated to Egypt making it not pure and that could be why they cant yet link genetics. Above the Sahara is also looked as not being Africa because it is cut off. However, it is all still part of the continent of Africa making it diverse.

Anonymous said...

Kamil Washington
Period 4

The first blogg was very afrocentric and they were proud of their heritage which everyone has a right to be proud of their heritage.The second video was not so afrocentric.

Anonymous said...

Elisa Pd. 2
In the blog response that was read, it was seen how much pride the blogger takes in his or her history. He or she feels that Egyptians/Ethiopians were black. This, however, may be a misunderstanding. In response to the blog, after viewing the vidoes, it could be said that all of the early people in Africa may not have been black after all. From the videos, it can be seen that, genetically, skin color of early peoples has yet to be proven. Additionally, black was a color that showed fertility and may have been used in many pictures in order to represent that. The black color seen in many works of art may have been simply symbolic rather than accurate in regards to skin color.

Anonymous said...

Sam Black Period 4

1. The blogger has pride about the early Egyptians because it shows his ancestors as powerful rulers of a huge empire. He is justified to feel this way because in all likelihood the ancient Egyptians were darker skinned than they are usually portrayed as.
2. I might blog back to the first "Afrocentric" blogger that it is possible the "evidence" supporting the theory that dark-skinned people were pharaohs could be misleading. The black colors used in art to color the faces of rulers could have been symbolic. They could have symbolized power, or wealth, or any plethora of things

Anonymous said...

Neoshie Giles; period6
The blogger has pride because he seems to be proud of the black culture and race, and he wants to claim the Egytians. I believe the blogger has a right to feel this way. His evidence came from a National Geographic magazine article and the movie the Prince of Egypt.
In class we discussed the color of Egytian kings/queens' skin completion. The blog and article clips proves the uncertainty of what their color really was.
I would tell the blogger that so far, it's hard to tell the color of Egytians because of the paintings. Every artist has their license. Also, the black people drawn in the past by Egyptains themselves could have symbolized something like how fertile their land was.

Tom McCaffrey said...

Tom McCaffrey Period. 2

If I had only obtained pedestrian information on the topic of race of Egyptian kings, then my intial views on the subject would be in agreement with the author of the blog. However, after viewing the two videos and learning in World Civ class, I cannot aimlessly follow the words of this blogger. The author of the blog "The First Egyptians Were Black People - Ethiopians" has been misinformed on what is believed by scholars to be the real answer on race of Egyptians. The blogger includes pictures of ancient hieroglyphics and pictures of people from Egypt; The blogger assumes that because the skin of the people in the pictures looks dark, that all Egyptians were black, which is a gross overstatement and hyperbole. According to Zahi Hawass, an Egyptologist, the dark skin of the paintings did not necessarily mean they were of a certain race; It could mean that the soil was fertile. While the idea that Egyptians were black is not ruled out, the conclusion that many scholars seem to make is that there is not enough information to make a solid decision. Shomarka Omar Keita, another scholar, suggested that the idea of race is not considered to be valid. The afrocentric blogger has no solid argument with facts to back himself up, just pride and the need to feel good about himself.

Anonymous said...

Samantha Bradley Period 4

1. The blogger has a sense of pride about the earliest Egyptians and Ethiopians because he or she is proud of their accomplishments like being a wealthy group of people or controlling a large empire. I think that the blogger is justified to feel this way because ancient Egyptians and Ethiopians were probably darker skinned than how we may think of them today. The blogger has many different pictures of art, movies, and magazines to back up his or her ideas.
2. I might tell the blogger that there are multiple reasons why some of the faces in Egyptian and Ethiopian artworks are black. For example, black symbolized the fertility of the land as well as wealth during the time when they were made. Therefore, the color of the skin of the people could have been dark in order to represent wealth and the fertility of the land rather than an accurate skin color.

Anonymous said...

Brandon Caine WC8

I think that the person is to narrow minded. No one knows for a fact what skin color were the people of Egypt. The artifacts probably have tons of different meanings or could have no real meaning at all. They had to use a sun which could have turned black over many years. Those people are very Afrocentric and has so much pride in black people.

Anonymous said...

Mike Collins Period 8

I would first tell the blogger to visit the national geographic website and view the video clips. I think this would open their eyes to a different view point and it is also coming from a scholar or someone who studies egyptians.

I think the blogger has this sense of pride about the early Ethiopians and Egyptians because he believes that they were the dominant race. I don't think that based on the evidence he is justified to think this way because the only evidence he has are pictures. There may have been some black rulers in Egypt but there might have been some white ones also. But like the guy said in the video the stone that they carved faces out of meant fertile not nescessarily that they were black.

brian moleksi said...

Brian Moleski, period 8

The information that I would point out is on the blog page the man says that the movie Prince of Egypt showed that black people were the first people in Egypt. What I would point out from the "Color, Symbolism and Race" video is how the man explains Egyptian statues and art. He explains why the statues are different colors, and sometimes unrealistic. For example, the man says that black statues represent the fertility of the land. He also describes the Egyptian artwork.He says that all of the Egyptians pictures are of beautiful people because thats how the people wanted to look in their after lifes. What I would point out from the " What Genetics can Tell us" video is how the man talks about wether or not the diversity of Africa is of African origin or not. He is unsure because he said their isn't a lot of ancient DNA studies. He also explains how various peoples who were non Egyptian did come into the country. This evidence and lack of evidence makes us unsure wether or not Egypt is of all African origin.

Anonymous said...

Greg garvin
period8

I think the blog page was really afrocentric. i think they believe that since part of africa is black, then all of Africa is black even though most egyptians are light skinned and also other countries in Africa too. I also think that they are being mislead by the pictures and statues that are black because as the man said in the one video, the egyptians used colors to represent things like black, he said, meant fertility. I think the blog page was kind of racist with all the black power stuff and everything and the one comment said " people need to stop hating on the almighty black power". Most people would take that as a racial comment.

Anonymous said...

Alexia Milam Period 4:
a)i would blog back that his evidence isnt sufficient enough, since it came mainly from a kids movie.
b)the black color could mean how fertile the land was, and not neccesarily that the first Egyptians were African American.

Anonymous said...

David Slade-Period 2:

The blogger has a such a definite feeling about the early race of Egyptians and Ethiopians because he advocates books, movies that have some sort truth about the subject in them. The blogger just wants people to understand what really went on and not have a false representation. The blogger is justified to feel this way because of his rights and what he believes in.

I may blog back that he should brush up on some history to see what the colors actually mean. Many of the colors have a meaning that does not only represent their complexion. This was described many times in the 2 National Geographic videos that I watched. They showed us what the colors given to some of the ancient Egyptians and Ethiopians stand for something.

Anonymous said...

Drew Vitek Period 4
The first video talks about how even though skin on the statues and drawings were black, they represented something other than skin color. They black represented the fertile land. Colors meant many different things. Gold meant sun and happiness. The women who were drawn in the pictures were drawn as they would want to look. They were all beautiful, but not in real life.

The second video talk about how the first people were from Africa and that everyone originated from the same place. The fact that there is so much diversity in the world we live in now and that we all came from the same place is quite interesting. He also mentioned that even tho we all originated around Egypt, there was diversity there too.

The man in the blog is very emotional about blacks and being black. He talks about how "black" is beauty and how there is much power in "black". He talks about how the first people were black and from Ethiopia.

Anonymous said...

Bernadette Somogyi
Period 2

No one is really sure as to what color skin the pharohs were. most times they are dipicterd as black but in the mans video he says that it can be a symbol of fertility or religous values. which makes it extremly difficult to know what color skin they really had. its also very difficult in order to know what they really look like. the man in the video says that it depended on how the artist shaped the statues, that in the tombs the women were very thin and very very beautiful, but that it was not true that it was what they wanted to be. i agree with that becauseyou cant base your opinion soley on what a person looks like in a picture you have to see them for yourself and whose to say these women werent fat and really ugly. theres absolutly no way of knowing our only source is to look at what pharohs had painted.In the video "what genetics can tell us" the man talks about the concept of race and how people are grouped, but in africa there is a great deal of diversty. he also mentions that its hard to figure out the diversity of the pharohs.this is very true there isnt enough evidence to really prove what the parohs looked like, but there are clues that can help us have a general idea of what they looked like.

Anonymous said...

Matt Rappaport Period 8

This blog showed that the blogger took great pride in his race. He thinks that there shouldn't be racism in the world. The 2 videos were very informational also. This blog informed me of many things and im glad i saw this website

Anonymous said...

Alyssa Bevilacqua Period 4

The blogger has a sense of pride about Ethiopians and Egyptians because of the various paintings, tombs, and information that came from that region. There is some ambiguity with regards to making the assumption that because the faces were black that the residents of this land were in fact black. Much was made about black meaning fertility. The blogger is justified in thinking this way given the evidence that the paintings exhibit certain facial and skin tone characteristics.

One of the questions that needs to be answered is did this region have a mix of races of different people or was there only one race of people? Due to the socialization of many races the skin color of these people could have varied given the time that the paintings were completed. Earlier on the skin color could have started out lighter and as time went on various shades were developed over many years.

Carly Hughes said...

I believe the blogger makes a valid point about Egypt, in many ways ir seems to make sencse with evidence that Eygptians were all diffrent shades of what we see as "black".

Anonymous said...

Kerri Fedorowicz Per 2
I don't think that that blogger has much evidence on what he/she is saying. A lot of it is based on a cartoon movie for i think little kids, so they wouldn't go to those lengths to make the characters have black voice overs. Also the videos show that they still don't have enough evidence to show what race or color the first africans were.

Anonymous said...

Holly Brown
Period 2

I believe that the writer's complaints about "The Prince of Egypt" was a valid argument. Originally, all humans come from one, specific root. However, having the characters skin color the same does not back up this fact. It is not known what the original, "pure" human being looks like. With this a mystery, the only option is to look at modern day Egypt. An Egyptian person may have any kind of skin color. The diversity of humans is what characterizes them from one another. Having them all the same skin color is grouping them into one stereotype.
One thing I would definitely inform the blogger is that skin color is not everything. With his Afrocentric viewpoint, he fails to realize that he is also mistaking other traits. One's skin does not determine their voice. The actor's acting makes the movie, not their skin color. Along with that, the movie is animated, and the actor, black or white, cannot be seen anyway.

Anonymous said...

Michael Evans Period 4

The first thing I would bring up would be the information from the first clip about the meaning of the color black to the Ancient Egyptians. In it, Hawass says that the color black was a symbol of fertility to the Egyptians; the kings being being painted black is a sign that they are assuring the fertility of the Nile Valley. Then I would bring up what Keita said in the second clip; Ancient Egypt was very diverse, and there is little difference between Ancient Egyptians and Egyptians today. Finally, I would bring up the fact that most of the images he used were modern, and may not reflect the actual complexion of the Egyptians.

Anonymous said...

Alexi Dubrunfaut period 2

The blogger of this website wants to clear up any misconceptions about the true origins of the Ancient Egyptians. The blogger has every right to feel this way about the "Black" Pharaohs; they have National Geographic and "The Prince of Egypt" as solid evidence. I agree more with the first video clip because I too think that the Egyptians made the statues and statuettes with any material that was the easiest for them to use and acquire. I think the blogger is completely right in that the Egyptians were Black, because the evidence is clearly stated. Even though the man from the second clip says that it is impossible to tell because there is no DNA research, I think that the Egyptians drew and sculpted their artwork the color black for a reason. I like, from the first video clip, the part when the guy talks about how the black colored statues shows the fertility of the land, but I still think that it had something to do with their skin color. I think that it might have been a combination of the two ideas as well. The man in the video also talked about how some of the statues are made of the stone durite, which represents fertility in the Egyptian culture.

Anonymous said...

Rob Wells
Period:2
The blogger who wrote about his opinion on black people being the first Egyptians didn't really have a lot of good evidence. His evidence was a animated children's movie. I'm not saying that the facts in that movie aren't accurate. If someone were to attempting to learn about Egyptians and this blogger were to teach them, his only evidence would be this movie. It doesn't sound really good. Although, i can say that the blogger, being an adiment believr in black power, would be happy to know that the skin color balck meant fertility in ancient Egypt. From the video on National Geographic it represented ricness. Many kings' sculptures were depicted in black. This emant he king represented fertility over the land.The blogger would be happy to know that. Black kings and pharaohs were symbols of lushness. Also, from our discussions in class, skin color in Egypt was an important matter. The different tones had various representaions.

Anonymous said...

Zach Lyons
Period 2

In my opinion the color, race, and ethnicity of the people of Egypt was sybolized as being black...even though it could have been about soil but the fact that every statue and painting is black doesnt all mean fertile in soi...that means they have to be black and ethnically diverse.

Kristen Leary said...

Kristen Leary - Period: 8

Q #1: Why does the blogger have this sense of pride about the race of the earliest Egyptians and Ethiopians? Is the blogger justified to feel this way based on the evidence?

A: I believe the blogger has a sense of pride about the race because I think he/she believes that just because the Egyptians and Ethiopians were the earliest "blacks," he or she may believe that they are superior to other races

Q #2: (a) What might you blog back to the writer of that blog page in light of what we discussed in class and the 2 video clips you watched from National Geographic? What information from the clips that you viewed do you think you would point out in your response to the Afrocentric blogger?

A: I would probably blog back and tell the writer that the Egyptians and Ethopians were originally the first blacks, but I believe the blog to be a tad biased because the author's point seems to say, to me, that the Egyptians and Ethopians are the only races that matter. With the video clips, the one man describing why Gold and Black is relevant to Egyptians, seems to be kind of false because I believe the Egyptians wanted to be known as something different. The one man stated that the women drew in tombs how they want to be in their afterlife, and I believe that the Egyptians kind of planned out how they wanted to be viewed after they died

Anonymous said...

Rachel Strother Period 8
1. The blogger probably has a sense of pride in early Egyptians because he is proud and happy that people are reconizing that Egyptians and Ethiopians were originally black. The blogger is justified to believe what he is stating because he is intitled to his opinion on the "evidence". The evidence is that people did not believe that Egyptians were black, but the movie broadcasted that Egyptians were all shades of black.

2. I would write back to the blogger that I agree with him. I agree with the fact that finally the world is starting to recognize that Egyptians were originally black. I would point out to the blogger that other people have other view points of the subject.

Anonymous said...

Sarah Moskat
period 8
Although the pictures and statues of egyptians were black, doesnt mean this was true. Egypt always portrayed an image of a pharoah that they wanted to show. Not what they really looked like. So you couldnt look at a picture or statue and know thas exactly how they looked. I think people want to believe that the first egyptian were black, but I simply dint believe it.

Aiah Mbriwa said...

Aiah Mbriwa period 4

In the first blog, the writer has a sense of afrocentricism in his writing. He obviously takes great pride about the race of the earliest Egyptians and Ethiopians. I don't think the author has enough evidence to prove that the early Egyptians and Ethiopians were held higher than the other nations in Africa. They might have had more resources and other things, but that doesn't particularly mean that the nation is greater than all the others. In the video, the egyptologist belives that maybe some of the egypitians were not really of that color, but were in truth depicted differently based on the sculturors view.

Max Greenberg said...

Max Greenberg period 4
The blogger believes that the egyptians were black. i think he beleives this because he believes very strongly in his african heritage. One thing I would blog back would be wether i agree or disagree. I beleive that the scupltures showed that egyptians were black, even though the man in the video thinks elsewise. The video stated that the sculptures were black to show that the land was fertile.

Anonymous said...

Kelsey Fitzgerald. Period 4

The first clip talked about how statues in Egypt were black but it didn't always represent their skin color. Sometimes it showed the fertility of the land. In ancient times, colors represented a lot of different things. For example, gold could represent the sun. They used a lot of gold in statues, not because the people were literally gold, but it represented something so much bigger than itself. The sun meant happiness and prosperity so gold was used a lot.

Gabby said...

Gabrielle Noone
Pd. 8
The writer of the blog is extremely proud of their black heritage and believes that the first Egyptians were black. However, I would point out to the blogger that the Egyptians portrayal of their people was idealistic. Although the first Egyptians very well may have been black, there is only proof that the black color of their skin represented fertility and not necessarily the actual pigmentation of their skin.

Anonymous said...

I think it is very interesting to see how someone feels about topics including race. I know it usually stirs up so much trouble, but i still find those arguments thought provoking. Since this blogger is speaking his mind behind a computer, people tend to really come out with how they feel and to run wild. I'd like to see how this person actually acts or thinks in public without the mask of anonymity.

That being said i really don't mind what is written down here, i know we'd all write something that people would never suspect we thought or believed because its not how we acted in the real world.

Christian Petermichl
Period 8

Anonymous said...

The blogger has a point where different skin tones may have been evident in Egypt due to the types of trade that went on. Different cultures from all over Africa may have traveled to Egypt.

On the other hand, there is no clear evidence that different ethnicities actually did make their way to Egypt. The main focus of studying Egypt has been on the royal families and what they look like. Although, it is not certain that the people actually looked like that because African people used alot of symbolization when creating sculptures and pictures. It would be more benificial to us to try to look at the mummies of non-royal families so we can see what they may have looked like.

Anonymous said...

Anastasia pacana period eight. The afrocentric blogger seems very proud that Egyptians are in fact africans and is promoting thing that prove that. But both videos agreed as well as diagreed. Neither said any one was sure if they truely are Africans. It is too hard to trace and artwork is not a good example because it is based on symbolism and use. I would have to agree. In past times who knows where Egyptians came from gentically. But now races may have started to blend making some Egyptains close related to other Africans. The blogger may want to look into this before he or she goes off advertising African pride in the Egyptian race. After all with such a large contient all the seperate countries are not going to be the same race either even though they are Africa citizens.

Anonymous said...

John Rossi Period 8

This blog was very informative and allowed me to understand the Afrocentric points of view in the video. I am now able to appreciate and accept African culture and customs. I hope to further look into this topic.

Anonymous said...

I feel like this man's views are very limited, and that he is very elitist. The Africans were very advanced in this time, but it seems some this man's views are alittle prejudice. Obviously African was the center of the world at one point, in gold trade, and education. But to neglect the advancements of other races is unethical, and wrong.

-Dwight Martinez

Anonymous said...

Melanie Knight period8

I think the blogger obviously has a lot of pride in his race and the dark skinned egyptians. I dont think they think the african americans from that time got appreciated enough so hes trying to prove a point in saying all of the egyptians were black. I dont think thats right in saying all of them were black skinned, but there was many different colors to the early egyptians. I do respect the blogger for having good evidence and pictures though.

Anonymous said...

Jake Feler period 8
The blogger is proud of her African heritage because she thinks that the Egyptian civilization was started by black ethiopians. There is some evidence that this is true, because the first people were from Africa. But there were many different races and people in Egypt, so no one is sure what race started it. In one video, the man stated that people forget Egypt is an African civilization, no matter what race it was made by. In the other video, the man argues that the color of Egyptian statues didn't represent the skin color of a person, but represented another idea. For example, a gold statue represented the sun, not a gold skin tone.

Anonymous said...

Alli Failing period 4

This blogger was very afrocentric showing she had pride for the egyptians but motstly because of the color of their skin. The status and pictures of Egyptian Pharohs are not neccesarily colored black because that is their skin color but because the color black can mean the fertility of the soil. Not only does the color of the phahros have a meaning but also the color gold had a symbolic meaning to the sun rising. Colors were used to symbolize things.

Anonymous said...

Anna Silva prd 2

The blogger clearly is frim believer that the eygptians were black. She shows pictures of black pharaohs as evidence on what she believes.The blogger takes pride in his African decent which lables him as giving an Afrocentric view point. Also the wrtier didn't give much evidence to support their opinion on saying egyptians were displayed as being black. they used some pictures but no reasoning on why those pictures were choosen.


The information i would point out to the Afrocentric blogger would be not to blog about "all" egptians as being black. Even though the location of egpyt is in Africa and the majority of people are dark skin the blogger shouldn't write about them all being dark skin consider we do not know for a fact since it was in the past and just because some pharaohs were scupled black it just meant they had fertile land. The colors were a symbol not always literally meant to be taken as their skin color. Many opinions can be formed from the question, what is the race of egpytians. Numerous answers would be given with good examples available.

Anonymous said...

Travis O'Connor period 8

The blogger has an obvious appreciation towards black pharaohs and Ethiopians. This Afrocentric point of view is clearly shown through the mention of only Ethiopians and black pharaohs. He is very persistent in the fact that the first pharaohs were black. Although the one video states that the early Egyptians could have been seen as black to show the fertility of the land.

Anonymous said...

Adrian DeAngelo period 8

The blogger is only partially correct in his responce because it has been proven wrong,that not all early Egyptians were black. The black skinned portraits of early Egyptians represented the fertility of the land,and not of their skin color. Also i want to note that the on the blog page was on the boarder between afrocentric thoughts and just plain out biased racist comments.

Anonymous said...

Vika Guendelsberger period 8

I believe that the blogger had a lot of pride of a the Egyptians and Ethiopians race. Their viewpoint was very Afrocentric. I don't think that they had a lot of evidence. Many of the statues were painted black because that's what they believed and it represented the fertility of the land.Many Egyptians used colors to symbolize things like gold was used to symbolized the sun rising. There are many different colors of their skin not just black.

Anonymous said...

Caitlin Chapla- per4

The blogger has a sense of pride because the only pictures found of the Egyptians are of black skinned Egyptians and this was one of the first known and sophisticated civilizations. The blogger is mistaken because experts who study these pictures have evidence that the Egyptians used symbolism in their work like brown for fertility and she said that there was many statues in gold because the sun was gold not the people, so this is another reason why he can not be justified in thinking that the early Egyptians and Ethiopians had black skin because all of their artwork incorporated symbolism. I would blog back that he is right that the movie is wrong about the voices but for the colors of the Egyptians I think that he is wrong to believe that just because It began in modern day Africa to think that they would be the same color thousands of years later is ridicules because nothing can stay the same for that long, not even skin colors. In the clips they realized that the statues are not only made the colors that they are because of fertility and sun it had many other variables like the function of the statue a temple or tomb finally the experts get most of the information from the royal family which was only 20 percent of the population.

Anonymous said...

scott kelleher period 8

The first blogg was very afrocentric and they were proud of their heritage which everyone has a right to be proud of their heritage.even though it may have been a little racist. The second video was not so afrocentric.

Anonymous said...

Jessica Apeldorn period 4
In the blog, the author states that all Egyptians had dark skin. However, scientists have shown that the dark skin of the statues was used to portray the soil that was so vital to their lives. Too much pride was evident in the blog, though he should be proud. The author seemed too biased, but in a way he had a right to be. People underestimate the achievements of Africans which is indeed wrong. They were the first people in Egypt, thus creating the possibility that Egyptians were in fact darker skinned that usually assumed.

Anonymous said...

Sean Gannon Per. 8


The writer of the blog was very Afrocentric in showing pride in her view. I think the writer of the blog has its own view with the race issue and the color. There wasnt a lot of evidence to show. Black was a color that seemed to be most recognize for the Egyptian Pharaohs. They used different colors for different things in thier culture. Egyptians are not just black they are many different colors.

Anonymous said...

Courtney Paoli Pd. 3 - 1. The blogger has a sense of pride about the race of he earliest Egyptions and Ethiopians because she believes that they were black. The blogger is entitled to feel whatever way she chooses based on the evidence that she has gathered but I do not think she has enough information to conclude that the earliest Egyptions and Ethiopians were indeed black, because she got her facts from National Geographic and supported them with the movie The Prince of Egypt. I think that the tourists visiting Egypt on Dr. Gates' video would agree with the bloggers page but may find her to be misinformed about her ancestors history because of the sources she got her information from.

3A. If I were to write back to the woman who was the creator of the Chocolatecity News blog I would probably tell her that although it it is easily misunderstood that all Egyptions and Ethiopians were black due to the colors and facial features of statues that remain in Egypt or Ethiopia. It is proven by eyptologist Zahi Hawass that black symbolized the fertility of the land and gold symbolized rays of the sun. Just because statues from this time period had certain colored skin, did not mean that they were of a certain race but rather the staues skin tones could have merely been symbolic. Also another scholar stated that inner racial marriages and the fact that Egypt and Nubia were very close to each other and similar in many ways may have given the impression that they were of the same people and race. Also there are not many ancient DNA studies but the scholar also explains how many non Egyptions did come into the country. This evidence and lack thereof makes it unknown whether Egypt is of African origin or not.

Unknown said...

Faith Geating Period 5
i think that the peroson that wrote that was very biase in their saying that Egyptians were black. and much of their saying that i feel sprung from a relation that was black or they themselves are black. their statment was very opinonated but they stated as if it were a fact. they did not support their statment at all they just simply wrote down their mind so i don't know how uch that is to be taken seriously.
they have a sense of pride about what is most likely their religion or ethnicity because they are that ethnicity. everyone is proud of what they are. or at least of what they want to be. this person feels very strongly for their race. still dosent mean that it is justifyed. i think they have an opinion and they can state it but it should not be taken as a fact. it should be taken with a grain of salt.
2. the ancient egyptians use colors as symbols for their feelings, their land and many of the things they believe in, their religion. such as the gold is a symbol of the sun. the balck is a symbol of fertility in the land it does not nesesarily mean that they ancient Ethiopians were black or that they wore gold all the time these are simply the way they tried to symbolise themselves. show their true colors.
trying to detirmine what the ancient Ethiopians race or color was is like trying to find a book in a library with no system of shelvig. all the books are just shoved in there all mismatched. we have no preconcieved notion of what they might look like nothing to base it on. we only have pictures of fanisy gods that they want to be. or pictures of what they will be in the after life. you can not realy define them to a certian race or ethnicity becasue we have no idea what it could be.
3. i think i would say to that person that i think it is very specieal that you believe so strongly in you race. but you can act as thuogh it is a fact. especally becasue it is very unlikey that we will ever be able to define really what color the ancient Ethiopians were. it is ok to have pride in it but you can't go over the edge and inforce your idea of what you belive black are on other.

Anonymous said...

Jenna Lancaster prd8

I believe the blogger has such pride in eqyptians who were black because thats what we have the most evidence on today. But that doesnt necessarily mean the first egyptians were black. I don't believe that the blogger had enough background information before writting the blog. In one video they stated the black color could mean how fertile the land was, and not necessarily that the first Egyptians were African American. I believe they would agree with the blogger because Dr.Gates was saying he can't wait to visit Nubia because it started with African Americans. The information from the video clips stated that there wasn't enough information to determine if the first egyptians were african americans. This makes the blogger seem very afrocentric.

Anonymous said...

Afte reading this blog, it is easy to see that the blogger vas very prideful and believed that the africans deserve more credit for being one of the most successful civilizations. The blogger was happy for black characters in a movie but upset the voices were white. If you listen to some of the interviews in the video, one man says he thinks there were all different shades of skin at the time. Wouldnt that mean the shade of white was most possibly there too? Also the Egyptians used a lot of symbolizim and "tweaking" so to speak of their images for art to make it look like they would want or use colors to show different meanings. In one video the man says how there arent many DNA studies and if so it is doneon the royal which only make up 20% of the population. My advice to the blogger would be to do some more scientific research to back themselves up because from where I sit, it looks like Ancient egypt was very diverse and right now we have little evidence to point fingers in either direction.

Danielle Dyjak, period 3